I’ve concluded
As mentioned in a recent article on carbine caliber ARs, I had decided to build a 9mm AR carbine as a range toy. My goal was to keep costs around $1,000 and come away with something that used Glock mags and could compare with my B&T APC9, which impressed during a comparison I did with carbines vs. the 300BLK SBR.
In response to that article, AR15Discounts was kind enough to send me parts for a build…and I’m pleased to report the pistol has turned out even better than I could have hoped.
Now, let me be clear up front: For defensive purposes, my 300 Blackout AR
9mm AR Carbine Lower and Upper Receiver
When I received the packages of build parts in the mail, what stood out most was the beautiful receiver from Dirty Bird Industries. Full disclosure, ARBuildJunkie is sponsored by AR15Discounts/Dirty Bird Industries, so please keep that in mind as you read the following article. As with any firearms purchase, do your research before you buy. Never rely on a single source of information.
The new Dirty Bird DB9 receiver set has some of the best build quality I have seen in a pistol caliber lower. It’s machined by New Frontier Armory from a solid block of 7075-T6
On the range, this receiver set impressed. My mags dropped easy and free using both standard and extended factory Glock mags. With its use of a standard mil-spec bolt catch, last round bolt hold-open was also flawless over the course of 30-plus magazines.
Also worth noting, I built the receiver up with an NBS ambi safety selector, a Strike Industries Extended Latch Charging Handle, and a Magpul MOE pistol grip. Finally, a simple pair of Magpul MBUS was added.
Trigger
In discussing this build with AR15Discounts, I decided I wanted something slightly better than mil-spec, but nothing too expensive, as again, I was trying to beat the B&T APC9 for HALF the cost.
Going overboard on a trigger didn’t make much sense. Frankly, I’m fast-slapping a trigger to hit large steel plates at 15-20 yards…To me, the ALG ACT Combat Trigger was an ideal solution. It’s basically like cleaned up
9mm AR Carbine Bolt Carrier
I’ve heard a lot of good things about the ODIN Works 9mm bolt carrier group and was not disappointed when it arrived. It is a 9mm blowback type bolt carrier advertised to work well with
At the range, the gun ran like a sewing machine. S
Barrel
For the barrel, we ended up going with the Ballistic Advantage 8.3” 9mm modern series. Now that I plan to keep the pistol suppressed full-time, I’m thinking a shorter 4” barrel underneath the handguard with an Octane 9 suppressor peeking from underneath might look pretty slick.
For
Handguard
I was sent the FDE version of the Strike Industries Strike Rail M-LOK Handguard at 10”…with the idea being the inside dimensions of it at 1.57″ would accommodate my Octane 9 suppressor with some room to spare. The outer dimensions of that particular can
This was my first experience with the Strike Industries Handguard and I was quite surprised. To be honest, I had heard a bit of negativity over the fact that it’s imported…but to its credit, the rail had a great fit and finish and went on without any issues. The FDE also looked wonderful.
When the suppressor is not on the firearm, I opted to put a Blitzkrieg Tactical Flash Can on it. It has a nice look. If I pretend hard enough, it is about what it would have looked like had we gone with the 4” barrel plus the suppressor.
Stablizer, Etc.
I’d seen the KAK Shockwave before, and for a no-nonsense, inexpensive stabilizer it does not disappoint. It compares very favorably with the stabilizing brace on the APC9. In practical terms when comparing the two while shooting, you don’t notice a difference.
The KAK Shockwave was installed onto a KAK Shockwave Pistol Reciever Extention/Buffer Tube paired with a mil-spec carbine buffer spring. Inside sat an extended KAK 9mm Carbine Buffer.
AR15Discounts sent me this extended version because,
Range Test
For the first range test, I was very anxious to see how this build functioned. To be honest, this is the first blowback AR I have attempted, so fingers crossed, I went to my favorite part of my range, the steel section…
I brought along 10 boxes of 115-grain UMC and another 10 boxes of 147-grain along with a pile of new Glock mags. The 9mm AR Carbine was lubed somewhat liberally with Break Free CLP and firing commenced.
During this range session on the 25-yard steel range, the gun performed flawlessly. 1,000 rounds fired without malfunction.
Just as pleasing was the fact eyes closed, you wouldn’t necessarily be able to tell a difference between this carbine and the more expensive B&T. So far…Mission accomplished! The gun was just as smooth, just as accurate with the Magpul MBUS…and simply about as much fun as you can have with an AR.
In the next few weeks, I look forward to spending more time with it, getting a feel for its accuracy on paper and putting as much ammo through it as I can. Down the line, I might also consider swapping out that 8.3” for the 4” barrel and
Regardless, the 9mm AR
Thanks again to AR15Discounts.com for the parts. Links to the parts and their store can be found below.
9mm AR Carbine Complete Parts List
- Dirty Bird DB9 9mm / Pistol Caliber Receiver Set
- Strike Industries Strike Rail M-LOK Handguard
- Dirty Bird AR-15 Lower Parts Kit Minus FCG & Pistol Grip
- Ballistic Advantage 8.3″ 9MM Modern Series AR-15 Barrel
- Blitzkrieg Tactical Flash Can – Regular 1.360″ OD 1/2 – 28
- Strike Industries Extended Latch Charging Handle – FDE
- AR-15 Mil-Spec Carbine Buffer Spring
- AR15 9MM Carbine Buffer – Extended
- KAK Shockwave Blade Pistol Stabilizer – Black
- KAK Shockwave Pistol Receiver Extension / Buffer Tube
- Magpul MBUS Front Flip-Up Sight Gen 2 (Black)
- Magpul MBUS Rear Flip-Up Sight Gen 2 (Black)
- Magpul MOE Pistol Grip – Black
- NBS Mil-Spec Style Ambidextrous Safety Selector
- ODIN Works 9mm Black Nitride Bolt Carrier Group
- ALG ACT AR-15 Combat Trigger
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James
Have you swapped out the 8.3” for the 4” barrel to see what, if any, differences you felt?
I have not…I’m actually planning another build with an Angstadt Arms receiver with a shorter barrel. I’ll post here once it’s done. Are you thinking of building a ppc?
Actually, I was going to buy a pcc until I read your article, so, now I’m thinking of building one instead. This would be my first attempt at buying parts and assembling a handgun, so any advice/recommendations for this newbie would be appreciated. Thanks for the great article and for opening my eyes to a whole new world of building vs. buying.
If you’re looking to keep it affordable, the build list above (links at bottom of article) is really nice…the upper and lower receiver set was really, really impressive….I’ve had a few friends build that exact setup and they’ve all been thrilled. I think if I were going to move up to a different price point, I’d start looking at what JP Enterprises is up to… but at those prices, I’d be really tempted to go with a B&T APC 9.
I’m trying to do this build. It looks really nice but I cannot find the dirty bird db9 receiver set for sale anywhere. Any place you recommend looking for it?
You’re in luck. AR15Discounts.com just received a shipment of them today. Receiver set is on sale for $277.95 – https://ar15discounts.com/products/dirty-bird-db9-9mm-pistol-caliber-receiver-set/
What was the cost of this build? I am looking to build this rifle and am wondering what it will be
parts list at bottom of article. i just added a bunch of the parts at the end of the list to a cart, and I was under 1,000. A few of the parts, like the receiver set were on sale. I skipped the BUIS and a few other small parts i already had. for the price, this is a very hard setup to beat for a fun 9mm.
At approximately 40 seconds in on your video it looks like the optic is really flopping around.
it most certainly was. had to tighten it right after that shot.
I know you wrote this a while ago, but how’s the mil spec bolt catch holding up so far?
no issues.
The barrel listed above has been out of stock for a while now. Any other barrels you’d recommend as a substitute (all other things staying the same)? Thanks!
Great article. I’ve bought all the parts and with a friends help we put it all together. I have one question. You call out the Odin 9MM BCG, which is the option I went with. A friend mentioned Stealth Recoil Springs the other day, was looking at the Armaspec version for 9MM groups. Is this compatible with this build and if so how would you install it. It appears to just replace the buffer and spring. Wasn’t sure if you would have to modify the BCG in anyway. The site states “the extra weight on the back of the BCG… Read more »
Would a Cry Havoc takedown system work with this build?
I just finished this build and boy was it a challenge finding parts. For those of you who do not know, the DirtyBird receiver is the same as the Spartan and New Frontier 9mm receivers. Over the past three months I was only able to find the Spartan lower, but the upper was out of stock everywhere. Finally, the Spartan upper with the side charging handle became available, so I incorporated that in my build. Two things were impacted by this change to a side charging upper, the vise block and handguard. I contacted AR15Discounts. They recommended a rail mount… Read more »
Okay, I was not able to get a good fit with the Aero Precision handguard using the Bar Nut. The handguard holes will not match up to the holes in the Bar nut. I ended up going with the 9.7” Dirty Bird AR-15 SMRS Handguard – Slim M-LOK Rail System Gen 3. It’s a great looking handguard and so easy to install.
https://ar15discounts.com/products/dirty-bird-ar-15-smrs-handguard-slim-m-lok-rail-system-gen-3/
I would love a AR pistol but I’m in CA. gun Nazi place
I have built a few AR9 pistols and purchased complete uppers from DELTATEAM TACTICAL along with parts from AR15 discount and a few other suppliers great builds no problems just need to assemble and clearance everything what you should do anyway
The link to the Magpul pistol grip is wrong. It links to a hand guard.
this has been fixed thanks for the catch
I’m ordering the parts and building this. Thanks for the great article!
Would love to see some pics and a range report once its done. Glad you liked the article.
It’s done. This gun is fantastic. So much fun and runs like a top.
GREAT to hear. I’ve had 3 buddies build this exact gun and, yeah…all of them love it.
How much did you have in it?
Can I follow this and get longer barrle
Quick question. Why have the Dirty Bird Buffer kit and the KAK Buffer Tube?
good question…give me a few min.
OK, thanks. I’m going with the KAK 9mm buffer, tube, and stabilizer. I’ll add a spring as well.
Jason, actually you don’t need that…you just need the KAK tube, a mil-spec carbine buffer spring, and extended 9mm buffer, a mil-spec end plate and castle nut. apologies for the confusion. I’m going to adjust the list above to reflect that.
Thanks. That’s what I ended up ordering.